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These are excerpts from Kersten commentary.

Katherine can be found here at the Star Tribune:
http://www.startribune.com/bios/10645201.html

Sunday, December 12, 2010

KK tells us what's wrong with marriage ..

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The growing "marriage gap" is one of our nation's most important and troubling trends. For Americans with college degrees (30 percent of the population), marriage -- our bedrock social institution -- is stable and getting stronger. But for the moderately educated (the 58 percent with a high school but not a college diploma), it's in precipitous decline. In fact, the family life of America's once-great middle class is quickly becoming almost as fragile as that of our poorest citizens -- the 12 percent who are high school dropouts.

The disturbing details are in a new study -- "When Marriage Disappears: The Retreat from Marriage in Middle America" -- by the University of Virginia's National Marriage Project and the Institute for American Values. The conclusion is stark: "The United States is devolving into a separate-and-unequal family regime, where the highly educated and affluent enjoy strong and stable households and everyone else is consigned to increasingly unstable, unhappy, and unworkable ones."

Only 11 percent of college-educated Americans now divorce or separate in the first ten years of marriage, while 37 percent of their high school-educated peers do. Sixty-nine percent of highly educated married adults report a "very happy" marriage, while only 57 percent of the moderately educated and 52 percent of the least educated say the same. The gap on non-marital child-bearing is jaw-dropping: Only 6 percent of college-educated mothers' babies are born out-of-wedlock, while it's 44 percent for moderately educated mothers and 54 percent for high school dropouts. In the 1980s, those figures were 2 percent, 13 percent and 33 percent, respectively.

What explains this?

Americans of all backgrounds still agree on the value of marriage -- roughly 75 percent say "being married" is very important to them. But the meaning of marriage has changed dramatically in the last 40 years, according to the authors. A new model has greatly raised the bar, both emotional and financial, on what it takes to get and stay married.

In the past, our society adhered to the "institutional" model of marriage. This model seeks to "integrate sex, parenthood, economic cooperation, and emotional intimacy" into the sort of "good-enough" marriage that our grandparents expected -- and which most of us can still attain. Today, however, that model is being displaced by a yuppie-style "soul mate" model, which sees marriage primarily as a "couple-centered vehicle for personal growth, emotional intimacy, and shared consumption that depends for its survival" on happiness and constant self-fulfillment.

Many college-educated Americans are well-equipped to achieve a soul-mate-type marriage. They generally plan their lives using what the report calls the "success sequence:" a focus first on education and work, then on marriage, followed by child-bearing. This requires developing such virtues as delay of gratification and hard work. It also minimizes such stresses as out-of-wedlock birth, and maximizes financial resources that can be used for self-fulfillment.

But a "soul mate" marriage is beyond the reach of a growing number of moderately educated and poor adults. Today, these Americans tend to have more sexual partners, substance abuse, infidelity and unplanned pregnancies than do their college-educated peers, according to the report. Men in particular tend to embrace a "live-for-the-moment" ethic, and to have "long periods of idleness." This is hardly a recipe for marital success.

Moderately educated Americans are also disengaging from institutions of work and civil society to a much greater degree than are those with college degrees. In the last 40 years, high school-educated men have become significantly more likely than college-educated men to experience bouts of unemployment, the report says. At the same time, the moderately educated are abandoning churches, Lions Clubs and VFW groups that supported their grandparents' "institutional" marriages, and that teach "the habits of the heart" that sustain strong marriages.

Americans increasingly see marriage not as the gateway to adulthood but as a "capstone" that "signals couples have arrived, both financially and emotionally," according to the report.

The marriage gap is bad news for all. Young people without married parents are at risk for a host of social pathologies. Single mothers are more likely to live in poverty, while single men risk detachment from their children and from what the report calls the "civilizing power" of marriage.

If marriage becomes "a luxury good," in the report's words, consequences will be severe. This fundamental social institution "has long served the American experiment in democracy as an engine of the American Dream, a seedbed of virtue for children, and one of the few sources of social solidarity in a nation that otherwise prizes individual liberty.""

220 comments:

  1. Katherine hits the nail on the head once again!

    It's sad to see liberalism destroy our moral values like that. Seems like liberals are out to destroy marriage (unless it's gay marriage of course). The liberal welfare system has certainly destroyed marriage in the black community anyway, with about 85 percent or so of black kids being born to single mothers. As a result, a black male today is 3 times more likely to go to prison than to college.

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  2. "University of Virginia's National Marriage Project and the Institute for American Values"

    I'm wondering which American values this institute is instituting.

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  3. "It's sad to see liberalism destroy our moral values like that."

    D2's moral values = be like D2 or you aren't a real American.

    Or ...

    Just hate everyone who is not like D2, like anyone who is not Christian (or at least D2's definition of 'Christian'), or has the same skin tone, or doesn't practices fascism

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  4. Liberal Greg,

    You liberals have done more to harm the black community than the KKK ever dreamed of. I'm not blaming black males for bring 3 times more likely to go to prison than college, I'm blaming liberal policy which put them in that position.

    Pull your head out Man!

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  5. There you go trying to justify your racist tendencies and membership in the KKK again D2.

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  6. No Greg, but you liberals like playing the race card, don't you. Again, I don't judge people by their skin color, I judge them by their behavior and character. I would gladly vote for a black conservative over a white liberal any day.

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  7. Swedish Police: Explosions were Islamic terror.

    Two people were wounded in central Stockholm on Saturday in what appeared to be the first suicide bombing in the history of Sweden, which has been spared the major terrorist strikes seen in several other European countries.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2010/12/12/swedish-police-explosions-terrorism/?test=latestnews

    Muslim immigrants trying to murder Christmas shoppers! Didn't the Somali immigrant in Oregon target people celebrating Christmas as well? No wonder they call it the Religion of Peace.

    Hopefully we will learn from Eurabia's mistakes such as their suicidal immigrtion policies.

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  8. "No Greg, but you liberals like playing the race card, don't you."

    I'm not a liberal, I'm just calling it like I see it.

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  9. "Muslim immigrants trying to murder Christmas shoppers! "

    I'll bet you warn all your neighbors when Kareem Abdul Jabar is in town don't you D2.

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  10. SPECIAL REPORT: More Than 1000 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims - Challenge UN IPCC & Gore

    Learn more at:
    http://www.climatedepot.com/a/9035/SPECIAL-REPORT-More-Than-1000-International-Scientists-Dissent-Over-ManMade-Global-Warming-Claims--Challenge-UN-IPCC--Gore

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  11. "I'll bet you warn all your neighbors when Kareem Abdul Jabar is in town don't you D2."

    I don't think he's a terrorist Liberal Greg, but an alarming number of Muslims are, and we should keep Americans safe from potential Islamic terror by limiting the number of Muslim Somali's from entering our country for liberal welfare benefits.

    Didn't you read about the strong link between Somali immigrants in Minnesota and Islamic terror? We are insane to keep the flood gates open to these people. It doesn't make sense financially, culturally, or in terms of our safety.

    Liberals, go figure....

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  12. "I don't think he's a terrorist Liberal Greg, but ..."

    Liar. You're convinced every person that practices the Muslim faith is a terrorist and your enemy. Stop your damn lying.

    A terrorist is a terrorist D2 ... doesn't matter the faith, the origin, nada. It's just that simple, but you are bound and determined to toss an additional label on them and there's only ONE possible reason for it. It's called hate.

    Did someone of the muslim faith laugh at your dick in the shower or something?

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  13. Greg, as far as Muslim immigration goes, at what percentage of them supporting Islamic terror would you feel comfortable? 1%, 10% 30%? Just curious.

    Did you know that one quarter of young Muslim American men support Islamic terror? The liberal media doesn't want us to know that.

    It's only a matter of time before these morons start setting off bombs and killing people at the MOA just like they are in Europe, and I think you realize this Greg.

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  14. So someone who is muslim laughed at your dick in the shower ... I thought so.

    Maybe you forgot to notice the rest of the people laughing too D2.

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  15. "Greg, as far as Muslim immigration goes, at what percentage of them supporting Islamic terror would you feel comfortable? 1%, 10% 30%? Just curious."

    I didn't think you had the balls to answer that.

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  16. Senior German politician calls to stop Muslim immigration:

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3966820,00.html

    It’s good to see another European elected official (besides Geert Wilders) mention the Islamic elephant in the room and how it should be brought under control. Why continue to import people whose values are opposed to Western freedoms?

    Some, perhaps many, Muslims would prefer totalitarian sharia Islamic law to western democracy. For example a 2006 UK poll showed that 40 percent of Muslims there would rather live under sharia than British representative government.

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  17. "I didn't think you had the balls to answer that."

    It's nothing that can be answered. Do you honestly think anyone is going to answer that truthfully D2?

    If you believe ANY poll that suggests correct results you're a bigger moron than I'd thought.

    You're really pissed they laughed at you aren't you D2.

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  18. "It's nothing that can be answered"

    Sure it can Greg! Give it a shot.

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  19. "Sure it can Greg! Give it a shot. "

    Case in point.

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  20. You just don't want to answer because you know you'll look foolish.

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  21. "You just don't want to answer because you know you'll look foolish."

    EXACTLY!! And anyone who does answer it is foolish beyond belief.

    It's like someone asking you if you're gay in front of your wife D2 ... of course you're going to lie ...

    then again, she must be used to you lying so she probably knows anyway.

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  22. OK Greg, I'll spell it out for you since you refuse to address this. If there are 200,000 Somali welfare migrants in Minnesota and 1% of them support Islamic terror, that means that there are 2,000 potential terrorists living among us. However, we know that about 25% of young American Muslim men support Islamic terror which would put the figure closer to 50,000 potential terrorists here. Is that comforting to you Greg? Why do you liberals like putting innocent Americans in danger so you can fulfill your liberal multiculteral impulses Greg?

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  23. Now explain how you got those numbers D2.

    Just like you won't admit you're turned on by guys in front of your wife, why do you think someone is going to admit they're a terrorist?

    That's pretty logical for you, but maybe you'll figure it out.

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  24. "Now explain how you got those numbers D2."

    Just do a google search Greg. The Somali population is exploding in Minnesota, especially with them flooding in like illegal aliens at taxpayers expense and with their extremely high birth rates while on the dole. No wonder liberals want to raise taxes all the time while chasing jobs away.

    Goodnight all!

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  25. "Just do a google search Greg."

    Why home schooling is not always a good idea.

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  26. You realize you're spreading more lies?

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  27. Greg, why do want want to put innocent Americans in danger of Islamic terror?

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  28. "Greg, why do want want to put innocent Americans in danger of Islamic terror?"

    I don't, but your lying and hatred are great recruiting tools for terrorists.

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  29. "It's nothing that can be answered"

    Yes it can Greg, it's just that multicultural liberalsim and reality don't mix, and your leftist idiology won't allow an answer because you would look even more foolish.

    Traditional European and some other immigrants have been good for America, they come here to work hard, assimilate and become good Americans, and have only good intentions in mind for their host country. Muslims on the other hand, especially welfare Somali's, usually immediately go on the dole, expect us to adapt to them, and have a proven link to Islamic terror in every host country they are welcomed to. Look at Minnesota for example with dozens of Somali's going to the middle east to blow themselves up, not to mention the serious problem with their dangerous gangs and prostitution rings. Somalis across the civilized western world have been trying to murder people, especially ones celebrating Christmas as well at an alarming rate.

    Again Greg, at what percentage of young America Muslim males supporting Islamic terror would you consider too high? Why do you want put innocent Americans at a higher risk of being murdered Greg? It's only a matter of time before the bombs start going off here with our rapid growth of Islam in Minnesota. Seen St. Cloud lately?

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  30. D2, you're so blinded by your hatred and racism, you don't bother to ask some very important questions ..

    1. Who conducted this survey and what was the reason?

    2. Who took the survey? What were the demographics?

    3. Who in their right mind would take such a poll in the first place and answer that they'd actually commit some kind of terrorist act?

    This is logic D2 ... and it's reality. On the other hand, in your world of extremism, you can only behave exactly as those you hate ... and they just happen to be extremists as well.

    Did it ever occur to you that you're constant lying and promotion of misinformation is what causes you to be booted from many blogs? People don't like your lies and misinformation D2.

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  31. Poll finds some U.S. Muslim support for suicide attacks:

    (Reuters) - About ONE-QUARTER of young American Muslims believe to some extent that suicide bombings can be justified to defend Islam, while nearly 80 percent of all U.S. Muslims reject such attacks, a survey showed on Tuesday.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2244293620070522

    Are you so blinded by your own liberalism that this doesn't bother you Liberal Greg?

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  32. D2 ...

    Here's a question for you ...

    would you consider using violence to protect your faith?

    If you answer honestly, maybe then you can go and google 'just war' ...

    You really like spreading paranoia in order to promote hatred don't you D2.

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  33. Religion of Peace Lashes Woman in Sudan 53 times:

    WARNING: GRAPHIC VIDEO

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2244293620070522

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  34. Sure Greg, defending Islamic homcide bombing I see.

    No Greg, I wouldn't kill innnocent women and children for ANY cause, but Muslims do that all the time. They have been targeting innocent Christians celibrating Christmas recently.

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  35. "No Greg, I wouldn't kill innnocent women and children for ANY cause"

    Did you support the Iraq war?

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  36. "Did you support the Iraq war?"

    Again, Muslims are the ones killing innocent women and children in Iraq (on purpose). Muslims also like to use other Muslims as human shields.

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  37. Why do you want to put innocent women and children in danger Greg?

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  38. So you did support the Iraq war. You do realize that innocent women and children are killed in any war don't you D2? So, if you supported a war then you supported the killing of innocents/non-combatants.

    This is where ANY normal person would understand the logic that regardless of your religious beliefs, people do commit violent acts in order to promote their religion, or ideology.

    Try as you want D2, but there is NO poll or stat indicating your question regarding killing for your religion for Christians.

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  39. "Survey: Nearly 1 in 3 US Somalis live in Minnesota"

    "MINNEAPOLIS – Nearly one in three people with Somali ancestry in the United States now live in the Minnesota, which has the largest concentration in the country, according to government data released Tuesday."


    A samale or samal (Spanish: samal, from Nahuatl: samalli)[1] is a traditional Latin American dish made of masa (a starchy dough, often corn-based), which is steamed or boiled in a leaf wrapper. The wrapping is discarded before eating. samales can be further filled with meats, cheese, vegetables, chilies or any preparation according to taste, and both the filling and the cooking liquid may be seasoned.

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  40. "So, if you supported a war then you supported the killing of innocents/non-combatants."

    What a stupid liberal statement Greg! I suppose you think that by freeing Europe and the Jews from Hitler's National Socialist (Nazi)Party, it meant that American soldiers supported killing innocent German women and children like Muslims do? We did what we needed to do at the time Liberal Greg to defeat that bastard.

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  41. "Survey: Nearly 1 in 3 US Somalis live in Minnesota"

    Oregon has a pot full of welfare Somali's as well, not as bad as Minnesota though.

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  42. "Poll: Majority of Americans say they are worse off than they were two years ago"

    Where has thier messiah gone?
    Long time passing
    Where has thier messiah gone?
    Long time ago
    Where has thier messiah gone?
    Stupid heads picked the wrong one
    When will they ever learn?
    When will they ever learn?

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  43. "Oregon has a pot full of welfare Somali's as well, not as bad as Minnesota though."


    Oregon has a butt full of welfare Somali's as well, not as bad as Minnesota though.

    fixed it

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  44. Minnesota will have more Muslim Somali's than Somalia soon if the massive "refugee" influx and extremely high birth rates while on the dole continues.

    We'll have to change the name to Minneapolistan.

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  45. "Poll: Majority of Americans say they are worse off than they were two years ago"

    "Where has thier messiah gone?
    Long time passing
    Where has thier messiah gone?
    Long time ago
    Where has thier messiah gone?
    Stupid heads picked the wrong one
    When will they ever learn?
    When will they ever learn?"

    Catchy! Someone should make a song with that.

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  46. 2010-

    "In a sweeping poll released by Bloomberg today, 66 percent of respondents said that they felt that “things in the nation…have… gotten off on the wrong track,”

    2008-

    "Young voters between 18 and 29 - 18 percent of the electorate - favored Obama 66 percent to 31 percent."


    stupidheads!!!!!

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  47. The feel good majority ain't fee4lin so good now? HA

    Whoa-oa-oa! I feel good, I knew that I would, now
    I feel good, I knew that I would, now
    So good, so good, I got Obama!

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  48. "What a stupid liberal statement Greg! "

    No, but you're a real idiot if you believe that if people go to war they aren't going to kill noncombatants and innocents. Then again, you just like to think you know all about that or what bat shit crazies like Bachmann tell you.

    If you can't figure out the point, it is that most anyone will say they'd commit a violent act to support their life, country, religion, or even ideology.

    You're idiot poll is simply a tool to invoke more bigotry and is exactly why you're attracted to it without looking at it logically.

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  49. "No, but you're a real idiot if you believe that if people go to war they aren't going to kill noncombatants and innocents."

    You're an idiot if you think I said it never happens Greg. The difference is that Muslims kill innocent women and children on purpose, while civilized western civilizations such as the United states go out of their way to avoid that.

    Are you saying that we should never have taken out Hitler because of the risk of harming innocent Germans? You're even more rediculously liberal than I thought Liberal Greg!

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  50. You know exactly what I'm inferring D2 but you're such an obnoxious moron you just won't consider logic.

    Instead you go on and on about your extremist ideology and glue yourself to lying morons like Bachmann because you think it's 'patriotic' and/or 'american'.

    You know absolutely NOTHING about terrorism, wars (like evaluating targets), or the military because you've never spent one minute of your time serving this country ... you just want our country to serve you and your racist ways.

    Do yourself a favor, go find a poll that asks the same of christians ...

    you won't find one because you can't sensationalize it or get extremist idiots to fall for it.

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  51. Greg I guess you've been right all along. I really need to stop spreading misinformation. It's not very patriotic and doesn't set a good example for my family.

    I'm going to try and stop being such a dumbass and begin participating with genuine responses and stop using all extremist links I have in the past.

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  52. OK Greg,

    Why are you screwing with my comments?

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  53. Ang Greg,

    It's not nice to delete the comment I posted at about 6:00 PM yesterday. You're turning this into one of those liberal blogs which bans comments it doesn't agree with politically, like Dump Bachmann and the Star Democrat Tribune.

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  54. D2, what the hell are you talking about? And what's up with this one post you're apologetic and almost normal, and the next you're into some manic crap.

    Are you taking your meds?

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  55. "I'm going to try and stop being such a dumbass and begin participating with genuine responses and stop using all extremist links I have in the past."


    I'm going to try and stop being such a dumbass and begin participating with genuine responses and stop using all extremist links I have in the past right after the courts allow Micheal Vick have a pet dog.

    fixed it

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  56. Pomeranian fights? Or mini chihuahas?

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  57. D2, you're not having a meltdown are you?

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  58. "And what's up with this one post"

    You mean the one from dare2sayit.CON liberal Greg? Only you know who that is.

    And you did delete my post yesterday, fess up Greg!

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  59. Mankato Head Start kids banned from seeing Santa Claus‏:

    http://www.twincities.com/ci_16863986?nclick_check=1


    Turns out that there are two non-assimilating Muslim Somali families in the program who whined about Santa (a non-religious figure), and it's politically correct and more important to bend over forwards for these idiots than to make the vast majority of the kids happy. The liberals who run this government run taxpayer funded organization need to be fired.

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  60. "You mean the one from dare2sayit.CON liberal Greg? Only you know who that is."

    No.

    "And you did delete my post yesterday, fess up Greg!"

    No again.

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  61. "D2, you're having a meltdown."

    Who are you talking to Greg? dare2sayit.com or dare2sayit.con?

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  62. Both. Admit it D2, you're not taking your meds and the multiple personality issue is full blown now.

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  63. "Admit it D2, you're not taking your meds and the multiple personality issue is full blown now"

    You make about as much sense as the outgoing democrats in Congress Greg.

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  64. "Senate Dem leader drops nearly $1.3T spending bill"

    "WASHINGTON – Democrats controlling the Senate abandoned on Thursday a huge catchall spending measure combining nearly $1.3 trillion worth of unfinished budget work, including another $158 billion for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    The 1,924-page bill collapsed of its own weight after an outcry from conservatives who complained it was stuffed with more than $8 billion in homestate pet projects known as earmarks.

    Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., gave up on the bill after several Republicans who had been thinking of voting for it pulled back their support."


    I think the key phrase here is-

    "Democrats controlling the Senate" abandoned....


    what a bunch of shrews. Right down to the last death throes of thier parties decline they expect the republcans to jump on board a sinking ship.

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  65. People really don't get what happened with this extension of tax cuts. About the ONLY thing advantageous to the middle class is the extension of unemployment benefits. The entire bill is focused on the top 2% of the countries population.

    And for those of you who maintain that that top 2% is going to bring our economy back, well, guess again.

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  66. Liberal Greg,

    The only reason you socialists want to confiscate most of the income from the achievers (the makers) and redistribute it to the motivationally challenged, welfare recipients, third world immigrants, and illegal aliens (the takers)is because you need to recruit more democrats voters.

    People should be outraged!

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  67. Fascist racist D2,

    The only reason you want the very rich to continue paying taxes at rates that are 15 to 20% less than your own is because you're the bitch to one of them and feed off of his extra income because you'll do anything he asks when you go to that little hideaway he keeps.

    People should be outraged you continue to lie in order to keep your man lover happy.

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  68. "The only reason you want the very rich to continue paying taxes at rates that are 15 to 20%"

    Greg, the top wage earners already pay almost all of the income taxes. Why do you liberals always want to penalize acheivement even more to pay for your ever increasing wasteful spending?

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  69. Right now th ebottom 50% of wage earners pay no income taxes, and acually get money back they never paid in.

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  70. ♪♫I farted and it smells like poop♪♫

    People should be outraged!!!!!!

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  71. "Why do you liberals always want to penalize acheivement"

    Can you imagine the kids today growing up with the "everyone is a winner" attitude in sports. No one keeps score and everyone gets a trophy.

    Fail and you win, win and no one cares.

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  72. I'm an American that believes if I have to pay 32% then someone making 1mm/year needs to pay 32% also.

    Fair is fair D2. If you want to pay a higher tax rate than someone making 100 times more than you, then you just go ahead and keep taking it up your ass .. .. you seem to enjoy it.

    In the meantime, we'll just keep watching our debt continue to pile up and not see any jumps in employment and a further erosion of the middle class.

    Do you know how many wage earners paid no taxes in 1980 D2?

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  73. I need to remember to take my meds. Apologies to everyone for my compulsive lying and misinformation.

    Hopefully they come up with some stronger medications to help me with my multiple personalities. People get so confused when they read the things I write when I'm having my one of my ... my .. moments.

    All I want for Christmas is to rid myself of the evil D2 and be left with the good D2 who doesn't lie and doesn't disrespect other cultures.

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  74. "I'm an American that believes if I have to pay 32% then someone making 1mm/year needs to pay 32% also."

    Same here, but as I said, the top wage earners pay a higher percentage. The proof is with the bottom 50% paying ZERO PERCENT Greg! Shouldn't they have some skin in the game as well so they don't vote socialist all the time?

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  75. "Same here, but as I said, the top wage earners pay a higher percentage."

    That's because they have more income you idiot.

    If every dollar is taxed 32 cents it doesn't matter if you make 50k or 500m the dollar is still the same.

    Now, if someone is only making 12k/year ... I don't think we should take money from them since they'll end up having to use services we all have to pay for anyway. And that 12k number is just a number ..

    Keep thinking the way you do D2 and watch the middle class erode to nothing and we'll end up with two classes ... and 2% of the population ruling the country.

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  76. "Now, if someone is only making 12k/year ... I don't think we should take money from them since they'll end up having to use services we all have to pay for anyway."

    So you're saying that illegal aliens shouldn't pay taxes then? We all know they take in far more in services than they contribute.

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  77. "We all know they take in far more in services than they contribute. "

    We do? Why don't you show everyone all the proof D2.

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  78. D2, I hope they find you some stronger meds too!!!!

    HAAAAA!!!!!!

    Is that you GO?

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  79. Right on ..

    http://www.celebstoner.com/201012025369/news/marijuana-news/teapot-party-fever-sweeping-the-nation.html

    THIS is common sense.

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  80. "dare2sayit.con"

    Nicely done!!

    "THIS is common sense."

    Now that's a "party" I can give my full support too!!

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  81. I'm convinced that D2.con is the REAL D2 .. err .. the medicated D2 who is balanced and able to face reality and think with logic.

    Good to see you t .. just think of the revenue stream from legalization.

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  82. "just think of the revenue stream from legalization"

    It would be nice to put the Mexican drug cartels out of business with liberals refusing to control our borders.

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  83. Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas , Texas is a fairly famous institution and for a variety of reasons:

    1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963
    2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after
    3. Jack Ruby-who killed Oswald, died there a few years later.
    On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year. (That's almost 44 per day---every day)!
    A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal immigrants. That's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas!!!

    According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering 15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5 million.

    The average patient in Parkland in maternity wards is 25 years old, married and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant. By law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their immigration status or ability to pay.
    http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

    Again, liberals/socialists/communists are allowing this to happen on purpose to bring in more democrat voters who will vote for amnesty and redistribution of wealth.

    People should be outraged!

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  84. "Again, liberals/socialists/communists are allowing this to happen on purpose...."

    Or they remember this country was built on immigrants after we took it from the original habitats ...

    Fascist/Racist/Liars like D2 just want everyone to hate, hate, hate and build it on a bed of lies they contrive from fear and religion.

    D2, you should take your meds. You seem to be far more intelligent then.

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  85. What really cracks me up is that D2 is constantly letting us know he's some kind of devout Christian, yet his hatred for people who are from other countries and who need help is the epitomy of hypocrisy.

    Perhaps all those children should be born in ditches or very unhealthy environments D2? Would that be better?

    Personally, I'm glad this country makes sure those children are born in a healthy environment and do NOT mind my tax dollars going to that cause ...

    D2, why do you want children to be born in unsafe environments?

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  86. D2, why do you hate people of hispanic backgrounds?

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  87. D2, why do you hate people of African ancenstry?

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  88. The liberals in the Senate failed to pass amnesty!

    This is very good news for America!
    **************************************
    And Greg, pull your head out of your ass and quit lying.

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  89. "people who are from other countries and who need help is the epitomy of hypocrisy"

    Greg, I'm all for helping people in other countries who are having problems, but that doesn't mean we need to import all of them here. In fact, when we allow the best of a troubled culture to leave and move here, it makes it even harder for the remaining people to change things for the better.

    Why do you want to keep troubled cultures from improving Liberal Greg?

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  90. Like I said D2, you're a hypocrite. In addition, did it ever occur to you that if we begin treating these countries with respect and give some of them the proper education, they can go back and get their countries in order. The boon would be two-fold in that we'd most likely gaina valuable trade partner as-well-as an allie in time of war.

    But in your twisted ideology, it's more important to hate... it's that new age Christianity you practice and preach so loudly.

    Heck, you probably take up collections for abortion clinics south of the border don't you D2?

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  91. "In addition, did it ever occur to you that if we begin treating these countries with respect and give some of them the proper education, they can go back and get their countries in order."

    Our Universities are filled with foreigners Liberal Greg, what are you talking about? In fact, one of the guys I worked was one of the few Americans in his PhD program.

    Too bad so many of these foreigners use the technology we teach them against us, like the Iranians and Communist Chinese for example.

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  92. D2, you should write fiction.... and then maybe you'll be able to get to the right therapist.

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  93. "D2, you should write fiction...."

    No Greg, I don't want to be like you.

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  94. Okay D2, if you don't write fiction then show me the proof of these two statements:

    1.Our Universities are filled with foreigners Liberal Greg, what are you talking about? In fact, one of the guys I worked was one of the few Americans in his PhD program.

    2.Too bad so many of these foreigners use the technology we teach them against us, like the Iranians and Communist Chinese for example.

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  95. Maybe we could learn something from the socialists in Canada after all!

    Canada: Gang member deported from Canada—to Somalia!

    And, apparently dropped right in the heart of Mogadishu!

    Guess that will teach ‘em!

    From the Ottawa Citizen:

    http://www.ottawacitizen.com/story_print.html?id=3978915&sponsor=

    A 25-year-old street gang member, who came to Ottawa from Somalia at the age of nine, has been deported to that country in an operation praised by Public Safety Minister Vic Toews.

    Ahmed has admitted being a member of a notorious Ottawa street gang, the Ledbury Banff Crips. He was known on the street as “Ghost.”

    Ahmed has been convicted of a series of crimes, including possession of crack cocaine for the purpose of trafficking, assault, mischief and uttering threats.

    According to an Ottawa police report, the LBC gang uses guns and other weapons to aggressively defend its turf for cocaine trafficking.

    *************************************************
    Criminal Somalis in America don't have to fear deportation because liberals here protect them. More encouragement for them to commit crimes I guess.

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  96. D2, if you don't prove the statements you made (this means VALID statements with statistics that are verifiable), I will remove all the comments you post going forward.

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  97. Coldest December since records began as temperatures plummet to minus 10C bringing travel chaos across Britain:

    Learn more at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1339149/Big-freeze-Temperatures-plummet-10C-bringing-travel-chaos-Britain.html#ixzz18VBqjQvX

    Must be caused by Globull Warming.

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  98. If you're going to spew your racist crap D2, then you need to back it up. Why don't you try going to the U's site and see what kind of stats are there ...

    just a thought.

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  99. I see you've just deleted another one of my comments Greg. One which I explained to you that it was impossible to link to because it was my own personal experience I was talking about.

    Looks like your "RULES SUCK" motto only applies to fellow liberals.

    You always used to complain about annoying filtering, but now you are resorting to doing it yourself, not for profanity, but for thoughts you don't agree with. Way to go Greg!

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  100. Lets see how long the comment posted at 2:38 PM lasts.

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  101. "Looks like your "RULES SUCK" motto only applies to fellow liberals. "

    Rules do suck .. but blatant lies are worse and obviously you never learned not to do that when you were young.

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  102. Okay dumbass ..

    Why don't you tell us all about your military experience. Ever serve any time for Sam D2?

    I don't and didn't give a flying fuck if another soldier is gay. If they do their job who gives a fuck ..

    they're far less a pussy than idiots who like to think they know what's going on ..

    pussy's like D2 who'd probably get his ass kicked regularly for simply having a big mouth and not able to back it up.

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  103. "Rules do suck .. but blatant lies are worse and ...."

    I haven't lied Greg. Please provide proof for anything you claim is a lie. If I'm wrong about something, I will apologize for it.

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  104. More comment deletions. You are as bad as the Star Democrat Tribune and Dump Bachmann Blog Liberal Greg!

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  105. And D2 ...

    Did you even bother looking for stats? How many foreign students at the U?

    Are you that fucking stupid or what?

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  106. "I don't and didn't give a flying fuck if another soldier is gay."

    So you're saying that you approve of Fox Holes being turned into Love Nests Liberal Greg? Is that what I'm hearing?

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  107. "How many foreign students at the U?"
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    Among Minnesota schools, the U's Twin Cities campus had the greatest number of international students: 3,756 taking classes.

    "It used to be very difficult to get a bachelor's degree student from China," said Amy VanSurksum, St. Cloud State University's director of international student admission.

    Now, "you could easily fill all your classes with Chinese," Thomas said.

    Learn more Greg at:

    http://www.startribune.com/local/34580629.html?page=1&c=y

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  108. Hey D2 .. how much time did you serve in the military? Any? To much a pussy?

    If you knew jack you'd know that's a bunch of shit being spread by idiot liars ..

    but since you're one of those idiot liars you wouldn't know better .. not to mention to big a pussy to do some time for our country.

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  109. "The increased foreign student population will drive up competition among all students, he said."

    Now THAT'S a good thing.

    See, that's where I go for all my medical shit now. I went to 3 other places and ended up at the U because an old college friend got me in. All the docs from different countries and different ideas are what it took to figure out what was happening. I didn't like what they had to say, but at least I knew what was going on and even if it can't be fixed they stopped it from causing more damage.

    I'll never understand racist idiots like you D2 .. you have NO idea the gifts everyone has to offer and how they might save your life one day.

    It really must suck to be you D2.

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  110. Liberal Greg,

    Are you saying that only the views of people who served in the military are valid on military issues? Obama never served, but he is the Commander in Chief.

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  111. "Now THAT'S a good thing."

    Sure it is, unless they bring the technology they learn back to countries hostile to American interests and they use it against us.

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  112. "Are you saying that only the views of people who served in the military are valid on military issues? "

    In this matter most definately and Obama is getting his information from soldiers ... not morons like you or that lying piece of shit Bachmann.

    So why didn't you serve D2? Come on .. you claim you're such a fucking patriot why didn't you do some time?

    I'll answer for you .. it's because you're a pussy. You've got a big friggin' pie hole and don't care to back it up and when you do get your clock cleaned you run to a lawyer I'd bet.

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  113. Why don't you ask the same questions of your liberal idols Barack Hussein Obama and draft dodger Bill Clinton Liberal Greg?

    Hypocrite!

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  114. Bill Clinton -- Draft Dodger, Liar, Flag Burner, Traitor:

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070433/posts

    That's fine with Liberal Greg however with Clinton being a liberal and all.

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  115. Amazing! Greg hasn't deleted any of my last 4 or so posts! I'm impressed.

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  116. Greg's confused now and it will take him a while to think up a reply, but he always does.

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  117. Grim Christmas: Church bloodbath, bombings make many Christians doubt their future in Iraq:

    http://www.startribune.com/world/112128634.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUvDEhiaE3miUsZ

    The Islamic Religion of Peace doing more worldly good once again.

    Is the link to the Star Democrat Tribune exceptable to your Liberal Highness Greg?

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  118. "Why don't you ask the same questions of your liberal idols Barack Hussein Obama and draft dodger Bill Clinton Liberal Greg? "

    Of course you're trying to detract from the question again.

    So answer the question pussy boy .. come on .. can you?

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  119. "Of course you're trying to detract from the question again."

    I'm just wondering why you think it's necessary for me to have served to have an opinion, but you allow B.O. and draft dodger Slick Willy slide and you respect theirs.

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  120. Why can't you answer the question D2? Afraid?

    You talk a big game but can't play it can ya D2 ..

    story of your life huh?

    Come on, answer it D2 ..

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  121. I'm just wondering why you think it's necessary for me to have served to have an opinion, but you allow B.O. and draft dodger Slick Willy slide and you respect theirs.

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  122. As far as Greg saying he's married, I'll bet he's just shackin' up and calls it marriage (common law that is).

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  123. Come on D2 .. just answer the question .. why can't you D2? Is it because you're a ..

    pussy?

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  124. Now where did that come from D2? I'm married D2 .. to a female .. a woman .. she's always been female.

    But please tell me about how that worked when you married your current transvestite .. do you call him/her your wife? I mean, you really can't marry him/her here .. did you go to Iowa?

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  125. If you ban any more Greg I'm done with this blog for good.

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  126. "If you ban any more Greg I'm done with this blog for good. "


    Oh darn.

    Just stop lying and avoiding questions D2. Then you won't get idiotic posts removed.

    Were you in the military?

    Are you married to a transvestite or just shacked up?

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  127. That's about 6 comments you've deleted now Greg. Do you feel important or something when you squelch freedom of speech?

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  128. FBI's Most Wanted:

    http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/murders/

    Is the FBI's own website a credible enough source for you liberal Greg or will you delete this as well?

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  129. If you didn't act like such a moron and at least answer questions honestly, you may not get your comments deleted D2.

    Do you ever wonder why so many blogs completely eliminate you? Do you get it? People don't like you spreading your lies on something they worked hard on. Maybe you should learn how to respect that and people might actually respect your opinions.

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  130. Greg, I can understand blog moderators deleting comments filled with profanity, but only liberal blogs moderators like you, Dump Bachmann, and the liberals at the Star Democrat Tribune delete comments for thoughts they don't agree with.

    Never thought you would start playing thought police though. Must give you some kind of control high or something.

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  131. Actually Greg, you have kept profanty filled comments with no warning or anything, it's comments which don't agree with your liberal idiology that get deleted.

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  132. This is a very bad idea.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2010/12/17/bachmann-to-intelligence-committee/

    Linking Bachmann with intelligence is an oxymoron to begin with. She also has the reputation of having a very big pie hole ...

    the two don't mix.

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  133. Barack Hussein Obama's approval rating drops to a record low:

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

    Too bad Americans can't get rid of him now so we can start improving the economy. We have to wait for two more painful years of this moron.

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  134. A recent lie from Bachmann ..

    "Last month, she said the White House was spending $200 million-a-day for the president’s trip to Asia – a figure the White House dismissed as “a long trip from reality.”"

    Proven to be a lie yet she refuses to admit she lied to the American people.

    How in the world can you trust someone who continuously propogates lies to our country?

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  135. Interestingly enough, the top two earmarkers in the house and the senate are both republicans ..

    Senate*
    Thad Cochran (R-Miss.): $497,591,000 (242 projects)

    House
    Bill Young (R-Fla.): $90,450,000 (41 projects)

    Hypocrites?

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  136. Muslims expected to target Christians on Christmas for Islamic Terror in US and UK:

    "Authorities Worry About Christmas Attack For 'Psychological Impact'"

    "Federal law enforcement terror bulletins have become as much a part of the holiday season in the past decade as egg nog and department store Santas"

    http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/holiday-terror-warning-cites-car-bombs-small-arms/story?id=12417968&tqkw=&tqshow=GMA

    And we still don't learn from the mistakes of Europe and continue with our suicidal immigration policy. Liberals are still importing Muslim Somali's here by the thousands despite their well known link to Islamic terror.

    And Greg, i realize that not all Somali's are terrorists, but there is a large enough percentage where we need to put our safety before liberal multiculuralism and put a stop to the flood of these people. Even GO's Oregon has now experienced Somali terrorists.

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  137. "Hypocrites?"

    Sounds like it. It's more important for us to vote out liberal RINO Republicans than even socialist democrats.

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  138. Socialist Atheist Betty McCollum (DFL) omits "Under God" from the Pledge of Allegiance (good video)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXaiG16qSX4

    But Greg is more worried about Christians.

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  139. "But Greg is more worried about Christians. "

    Yet another lie from D2.

    I worry more about all religious extremists ...

    people like you D2. People who interpret the bible to promote racism and bigotry. The ones that forget about the compassion Christ preached and use it towards hatred.

    Those are the Christians I worry about .. like you and Bachmann.

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  140. "Sounds like it. It's more important for us to vote out liberal RINO Republicans than even socialist democrats."

    It is. And it's more important to vote for people who are not compulsive liars and invoke hatred towards others in this nation.

    Michelle Bachmann is a prime example of what this country should NOT be. She is a compulsive liar as proven previously, she does not know how to cultivate working relationships (as shown by her not being able to become the 4th most important seat in congress .. her own people don't trust her).

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  141. Islamic terror attack in Pakistan. Six dead including children in the Shiite festival of Ashura:

    Learn more at:
    http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Religious-attack-in-Pakistan.-Six-dead-in-the-Shiite-festival-of-Ashura-20277.html

    More heartwarming news from the Religion of Peace I guess.

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  142. "More heartwarming news from the Religion of Peace I guess."

    Terrorists first .. religion second.

    More attempts at invoking hatred towards an entire culture by D2.

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  143. "Terrorists first .. religion second."

    Today's Islam seems to be more of a radical political movement than anything else, and world domination is it's goal.

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  144. "Today's Islam seems to be more of a radical political movement than anything else, and world domination is it's goal. "

    And Christianity doesn't have the same goals?

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  145. "And Christianity doesn't have the same goals?"

    Of course Christians would like more people across the globe to become Christians, it would make the world a better place if more people had Christian values, but they aren't willing to murder innocent women and children to accomplish their goals like Muslims are.

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  146. "Of course Christians would like more people across the globe to become Christians, it would make the world a better place if more people had Christian values"

    So you're saying you have better values than any other religion does D2? Why do you think that?

    Has murder ever been committed in the name of Christianity D2?

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  147. I'm saying that Christians have better morals than Muslims.

    Christians have been known to behaved badly many years ago, but Muslims are killing innocent women and children in the name of Islam today.

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  148. "I'm saying that Christians have better morals than Muslims."

    Really?

    What about these guys?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan

    Or this?

    http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/dvera/politics/Nazi/NaziXian.html

    And what about the high morals of the folks here..

    http://www.holysmoke.org/icr-pri.htm

    Christians don't have the market cornered on morals D2 ... as much as you'd like to think so or convince yourself, it's not the case.

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  149. There are bad in any group, but there is a disturbingly high percentage of dangerous people in Islam. As I mentioned earlier, about 25% of young American Muslim males support Islamic terror. That's an acceptable number only to you liberals Greg.

    Right now the authorities are putting us on alert for Muslims trying to kill Christians over the Christmas Holiday, and I blame our current situation on multiculturalist liberals like you Greg who put diversity before our safety.

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  150. And Greg, nobody would believe you if you try to claim that there is a worldwide problem of Christian Terror, but everyone know that Islam has a severe problem with it.

    Greg, did you know that there have been 16,535 deadly Islamic terror attacks since 9-11? How many deadly attacks have Christians pulled off Greg?

    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/

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  151. "There are bad in any group"

    This is true and what you need to focus on instead of trying to create hostility towards one particular group. What you do is the definition of bigotry D2.

    "...and I blame our current situation on multiculturalist liberals like you Greg who put diversity before our safety."

    Go ahead and blame whoever you want, but in reality, it's moron bigots who are feeding the beast. The more you ostracise a group ;the stronger they become and you D2 are providing alot of the fuel.

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  152. "There are bad in any group"

    About 25% bad with Muslim American males.

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  153. "The more you ostracise a group ;the stronger they become and you D2 are providing alot of the fuel."

    That's it huh, liberals import thousands of dangerous Muslims at taxpayers expense and then blame conservatives for not treating them nice enough when they start setting off bombs. I've got news for ya pal, these people want us dead no matter what we do.

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  154. "I've got news for ya pal, these people want us dead no matter what we do. "

    And you want them to live full and meaningful lives right D2?

    See, this is the real news 'pal' ... between idiots like you and your counterpart idiots (terrorists), you're both out to destroy civilization because of idiology.

    Then there's the majority of us who want both of you to go fuck yourselves on some out of the way place.

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  155. "We have written a lot about the problems with refugees, mostly Somalis, in St. Cloud, MN over the last year or so (use our search function for St. Cloud). Now it appears that St. Cloud is no longer a city of secondary migration (refugees resettle elsewhere but then move to where jobs and welfare are better or where family members are located), but is now a direct resettlement site.

    This is information provided to the St. Cloud Times by SASSO (St. Cloud Area Somali Salvation Organization). SASSO is an ECBO (Ethnic Community Based Organization). They are like little ACORNS except that they are based around ethnic groups. ECBOs help ‘their ethnic group’ tap into welfare programs and other public services and then also serve as the political activism arm for ‘their community.’ See our ECBO category here."

    Learn more at:
    http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/2010/12/19/st-cloud-mn-update-refugees-now-arriving-there-directly-from-camps/

    This commentor hits the nail on the head:
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    John said:
    December 19, 2010 at 10:28 am
    I live in Boise, ID…we have had truck loads of Somali refugees placed in our city, in the past 10 years. There are no jobs available for these people. Most of the males just hang around their apartment complex all day long and collect a government welfare check (i.e. food stamps, tanif, etc.). Given their inability to speak English and the lack of opportunities to for work…we are importing are next generations gang problems.
    Call me crazy…but, with USA unemployment rates near 10%…why are we taking in refugees that ultimately will compete with US citizens for jobs?

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  156. 99 Virgins (great video)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmo4wuTXGjM

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  157. Refugee settlement watch? You've got to be kidding me.

    Lets see what the goals of that site are ..

    could it be ..

    to spread misinformation in order to induce hate?

    D2, how many somalians do you know personally? Have you bothered to learn any of the reasons they come here?

    You're an idiot.

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  158. "Lets see what the goals of that site are .."

    To educate Americans on our suicidal immigration policy. Americans would be outraged if they knew that we were spending billions in tax dollars to import trouble and poverty, not to mention putting us at a much greater risk for Islamic terror.

    Again, let's help these people out in Somalia or wherever instead of importing every foreigner having problems to the U.S., especially in a recession.

    "Have you bothered to learn any of the reasons they come here?"

    The main reason third world immigrants have been targeting Minnesota is for our liberal welfare system Greg and you can't dispute that. We know that welfare rewards irresponsible behavior which had led the Somali community to have a serious and dangerous gang problem now in Minnesota. You liberals ignore all this though.

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  159. "To educate Americans on our suicidal immigration policy. "

    Educate? HAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

    Educate like a concentration camp.

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  160. Dumbass ..

    you're misquoting from the article.

    This is what it really says ..

    "Dozen men arrested in several British cities in suspected large-scale terrorism plot"

    You inserted a word just to cause more reason to hate D2.

    This is what I've been talking about .. your insistance on referencing a culture vs. referencing they are TERRORISTS. They're terrorists .. doesn't matter if they're Muslim, Jewish, Christian, or any other religion .. they are still terrorists.

    You're a bigotted little man D2 ..

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  161. Because you're lying by misquoting your comment is gone ..

    this is the original article:

    http://www.startribune.com/world/112179149.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUvckD8EQDUX

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  162. "These idiots are bringing in with them the same behaviors that made their countries of origin such Muslim crapholes."

    There is absolutely NO mention of these men being muslim in the article D2. You're passing misinformation once again.

    More proof you're a racist bigot.

    Because you refuse to stay with the facts of the article and are again trying to inspire hatred towards a particular culture by lying, you're comments are being deleted.

    I don't give a flying fuck if you want to comment on them being idiots, but when you lie in an effort to promote bigotry and/or racism your comment will be deleted.

    Quit lying and it won't happen.

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  163. This is the second article you passed on misinformation about:

    http://www.startribune.com/local/112163214.html?elr=KArksUUUoDEy3LGDiO7aiU

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  164. Bye Greg. I told you I won't participate with you playing thought police.

    And so what I added a word or two to make the title fit the story better. The Liberal Star Democrat Tribune needs a little help in that area. It's still the same story with the link included.

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  165. "And so what I added a word or two to make the title fit the story better."

    No, you lied to suit your racist ways D2. There is NO other reason you'd add in the words you did.

    Stop lying, stop spreading misinformation. It's why you constantly get booted out of places and quite frankly if you really are a parent then you certainly should know that if you continue to behave that way you're children are going to or are doing the same thing.

    You want to be considered legitimate anywhere then tell the truth.

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  166. "No, you lied to suit your racist ways D2"

    No Greg, everything I said was truthful, you just didn't like the way I said it. Those stories were from the Star Tribune by the way incase you didn't notice.

    Katherine never played thought police and practiced blog moderation (except for possibly profane comments from GO), and I refuse to particate. It's a slippy slop when you liberals start banning connents for one set of rules, it eventually ends up with banning thoughts which you dodn't approve of, and that's exactly what you did.

    Adios Liberal Greg, and enjoy your strictly moderated liberal blog.

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  167. Listen moron...

    you misquoted articles by inserting words that were not present. The ONLY reason you do that is to try and promote hatred towards a particular race or religion. The words were NOT in the original article and you DO realize the difference but refuse to acknowledge it.

    You're a compulsive liar and this is why you are constantly removed from blogs. If you'd pass on your thoughts without resorting to out and out lies, you would be taken more seriously and you might even learn something.

    As far as 'banning thoughts' well, that's not happening anywhere you've posted. People simply ask you to provide valid proof and you consistently can't do it. Then you begin your attacks of people being against you and all your other irrational bullshit.

    As far as moderated? I don't like misinformation and lying ... you practice both those traits regularly and it's beyond old.

    Give legitimacy to your 'thoughts' and maybe you'll find people are far more accepting of them. But right now, you're mostly blabbering lies and misinformation just like Bachmann.

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  168. "And so what I added a word or two to make the title fit the story better. The Liberal Star Democrat Tribune needs a little help in that area."

    Our former resident troll does inadvertently point out an interesting phenomenon of the print media - namely, the many instances of where the headline of a story does not align factually with the actual content of the story itself. This is a sign of the culture wars still raging in the newsrooms, and of the cognitive dissonance of an editor unwilling or unable to accept the thrust of what the reporter has written and thus feels compelled to provide "balance" to the article in the form of a slanted headline. In this particular case, it shows that the "liberal" Strib probably isn't as liberal as our poor troll has been programmed to believe by his thought-controllers.

    "It's a slippy slop when you liberals start banning connents for one set of rules"

    It's an even more slippery slope when one feels compelled to add a few words of ones own to a published story to make it "fit" better, but I wouldn't actually expect dtroll to be able to see such a distinction. As Dora would say, that type of process was not included in his/its programming.

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  169. Monty, the real issue is that people are attempting to align a particular religion as being terroristic. That's just wrong. D2's attempts at subliminally getting folks to believe that Islam and/or Muslims are all terrorists is the goal.

    People need to look at this for what it is .. terrorism. It has NOTHING to do with the religion and everything to do with radicals who in most instances have been infranchised one way or another. Religion may be a tool the terrorist cells use, but it is NOT indicative of a religion to promote this behavior.

    If people are going to understand the threat, then they need to understand where the threat is coming from .. in this case it's AQ and it is NOT a culture or religion.

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  170. "Religion may be a tool the terrorist cells use, but it is NOT indicative of a religion to promote this behavior."

    Agreed. It's easy to paint a whole group of people one color based on the actions of a few within that group. It's also usually incorrect to do so.

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  171. Unfortunately, painting that picture becomes a tool to create disenfranchised people into becoming terrorists.

    D2 most likely doesn't realize this (or Bachmann for that matter), but the more they promote their bigotry the more recruits AQ is going to get. Hate is a huge recruiting tool.

    Focusing on the acts and those that commit them is the best defense. Looking for those who are apt to become part of a cell is key in order to eliminate the potential growth.

    If people could learn to avoid attaching a stigma to a particular religion, culture, or group, they'd find the incident of issues would decline - not dramatically at the onset, but it would happen.

    People don't realize it, but folks like Hannity, Beck, Limbaugh (in some instances), Bachmann and others promoting their 'patriotic' shpeal to the masses is just a recruiting tool.

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  172. Thanks Monnty,

    I'll reply to you. Hopefully Katherine will come back on line sometime and we don't have to deal with strict blog moderation with Greg (no rules my ass!).

    Anyway, no matter what you think of my political opinions, Greg is a complete hypocrite for spewing lies, misinformation, and hatred towards conservatives like Michele Bachmann calling her offensive names like "bat shit crazy" and worse, yet he deletes my links to Strib stories.

    If Greg practiced what he preaches he would delete half of his own comments.

    Later Monnty!

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  173. Calling Michelle Bachmann bat shit crazy is relevant.

    It's not a lie, it's not misinformation, it's relevent.

    I wonder what I said that was worse? That I said she was a liar? That's relevant too ...

    http://politifact.com/personalities/michele-bachmann/

    And what about that 200m/day trip gig she spouted.

    People like that do this country and it's issues absolutely no good because they don't give you the truth.

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  174. "If Greg practiced what he preaches he would delete half of his own comments."

    You're welcome to prove where I'm lying or spreading misinformation D2.

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  175. "Calling Michelle Bachmann bat shit crazy is relevant."

    Hogwash Greg! Saying that is no more relevant than my views, the only diffence is mine get deleted. You're a liberal hypocrite!

    Let me know if you change your strict thought policing and blog moderation, you know how to contact me. I won't waste my time posting comments knowing that you might just delete them on a whim.

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  176. I think if D2 and Liberal Greg could afford strap on dildos they would be doing it.

    @@butt dont tell em i said so@@

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  177. Hally Barbur, what the hell. not that I thought you were anything more than a southern redneck. now this. shut the hell up and crawl back under your confederate flag.

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  178. "Hogwash Greg! Saying that is no more relevant than my views, the only diffence is mine get deleted. You're a liberal hypocrite!"

    The only difference between what I post and what you post is that 99% of your posts are lies and misinformation. Don't lie, don't misrepresent a source, and feel free to speak what you have left in that melon between your shoulders.

    Rules do suck, but the lying forced me to do something.

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  179. "I think if D2 and Liberal Greg could afford strap on dildos they would be doing it."

    He probably has one of those machines with my name on it. He's obsessed with me.....

    but frustrated I don't have that lovin' feeling for him.

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  180. TESTING
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    The latest WikiLeaks revelation: 1 in 3 British Muslim students back killing for Islam and 40% want Sharia law:

    "The outreach plan for British Muslims was published a month after a cable that revealed that while the community had grown to more than 2 million, unemployment rates were higher among Muslim men and women than in any other religion."

    "Muslims were also found to have the highest disability rates - with 24 per cent of men and 21 per cent of women claiming a disability - while the cable also cited statistics claiming Muslims were also the most likely group to be unavailable for work or not actively seeking employment due to illness, their studies or family commitments."

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1340599/WikiLeaks-1-3-British-Muslim-students-killing-Islam-40-want-Sharia-law.html#ixzz18tcF65CH

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  181. Look like lies and misinformation from the liberal Daily Mail in England, right Greg....

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  182. Congratulations D2! You didn't misquote or misdirect from that source. I think that's a first!

    There is a very relevant paragraph you didn't emphasize ... actually a few points you didn't bother to, but this paragraph is important:

    "And the latest cable revelations of U.S. ambassadorial plan to empower Muslim communities to 'mobilize against extremism' and 'build community resilience' confirms the White House's lack of faith in the British Government's ability to engage with the UK's Islamic population."

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  183. Again Greg, this article shows that a far greater percentage of Muslims living in civilized western societies like the UK are radicalized than you're willing to admit, and you call people racist and bigotted for pointing it out.

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  184. And Greg, the 12:10 post was 100% my opinion. Let's see if you delete my opinion again which would really be thought policing.

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  185. Thought police? Where did you get that new buzz phrase from ... it sounds like a Beckism.

    This is my opinion 100% ...

    Yes, you do have racist and bigot tendencies. My opinion is based on the fact that you have NEVER posted a positive aspect of the Muslim culture. Instead, you post only negative portrayals of a culture and of a religion. Obviously, you want people to believe that an entire culture is bad.

    Whether you realize it or not, Minnesota actively seeks out those who are at risk for becoming recruits for terrorist groups. The Somali community ;is esp;ecially aware of the issue and in conjunction with local government services (Police, DHS, etc.) works to discourage and in some instances curtail the potentials.

    You REALLY want to make a difference in stopping at risk youth from heading down the wrong path? Try volunteering ...

    http://www.voamn.org/Default.aspx

    ... stop ostracizing.

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  186. For once I agree with him ..

    http://www.celebstoner.com/201012235475/news/celebstoner-news/pat-robertson-on-prison-a-pot.html

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  187. "you have NEVER posted a positive aspect of the Muslim culture"

    You're right Greg, Muslims do overhelmingly reject some things liberals are pushing for like gay marriage. You have to give them credit for that.

    "You REALLY want to make a difference in stopping at risk youth from heading down the wrong path?"

    Yes, by stopping the importation of people most likely to become terrorists and troublemakers. As the Daily Mail points out, about 1/3 of Muslim students in the UK back killing for Islam. 40% want Muslim Sharia law imposed on society.

    I don't know about you Greg, but that is completely unacceptable, and we need to value our safety before multiculturalism.

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  188. And when I said "importation of people most likely to become terrorists and troublemakers", I should have added "at taxpayers expense" which is exactly what's happening.

    I think we should close the doors on ALL unnecessary immigration during a recession this bad. Immigrants will either take scarce jobs from Americans or go on welfare, and both are bad options.

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  189. "I don't know about you Greg, but that is completely unacceptable, and we need to value our safety before multiculturalism."

    Did it ever occur to you that our 'society' is a conglomeration of many cultures?

    "ou're right Greg, Muslims do overhelmingly reject some things liberals are pushing for like gay marriage. You have to give them credit for that."

    See, this is why I say you're a bigot. You just WANT to hate these folks instead of trying to understand them.

    Disenfranchised people are the most likely to turn to crime or dispicable acts D2 .. even you should know that.

    But for you, I'm sure it's far easier to hate then to take a huge step and learn....

    you might want to ask yourself if that's truly Christian .. and be honest when you do.

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  190. "I think we should close the doors on ALL unnecessary immigration during a recession this bad. Immigrants will either take scarce jobs from Americans or go on welfare, and both are bad options. "

    I think we should stop the HB series of work visas. Immigration to help people get out of war torn countries I think needs to continue ... and no, it's not some liberal crap.

    My parents sponsored a laotian family in the 70's to come here. The family provided intel to our troops and then found their own way out to get to the US. The father of the family was an awesome mechanic and machinist, opened his own shop, raised 7 very good kids and w;a;s adamant about paying back my parents (they wouldn't accept a dime, but they did let him do some work on vehicles ... and he also did some work on a couple old brit bikes of mine).

    Like most situations, he was successful but not all of them are like that and it's the same with all immigrants... even now.

    I guess I was fortunate to grow up being taught that every single person has value regardless of what you might see ... I respect that lesson, and try to keep it with me always although it's pretty darn difficult when I see some of the things people spout out .. yes, that includes you D2.

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  191. "Did it ever occur to you that our 'society' is a conglomeration of many cultures?"

    Yes, and it's been basically good until now.

    "You just WANT to hate these folks instead of trying to understand them."

    I would rather understand their behaviors while they're living in their own countries and not have to deal with terrorism, gangs, and non-assimilation after they move here at taxpayers expense.
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    "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

    Theodore Roosevelt 1907

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  192. "....and not have to deal with terrorism, gangs, and non-assimilation after they move here at taxpayers expense."

    How Christian of you.

    Food for thought .. it's far easier for a young Somali to become a terrorist in his own country than it is in ours.

    How much do you think it cost for one terrorist attack? Now imagine one less terrorist able to do the deed because they're here.

    Again, you're far too happy hating then attempting to look at the big picture.

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  193. "I think we should stop the HB series of work visas. Immigration to help people get out of war torn countries I think needs to continue ... and no, it's not some liberal crap."

    I think we should stop both, but if we have to choose between one or the other, we should choose skilled workers instead of welfare recipients. We need to stop importing poverty! especially when so many Americans are poor.

    "My parents sponsored a laotian family in the 70's to come here"

    Good for them, especially if the family helped our national security. Many Muslims on the other hand are a serious threat to our national security unlike the Laotians.

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  194. "Food for thought .. it's far easier for a young Somali to become a terrorist in his own country than it is in ours.
    How much do you think it cost for one terrorist attack? Now imagine one less terrorist able to do the deed because they're here."

    Greg, so you want to import Somali's here at taxpayer expense so they might be less likely to commit Islamic terror? Why is it America's responsibily to babysit the world? If they wish to blow people up, let them do it on their own soil, not here.

    I've got news for you Pal, we bend over forwards for these people and they crap all over us.

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  195. "I think we should stop both, but if we have to choose between one or the other, we should choose skilled workers instead of welfare recipients. We need to stop importing poverty! especially when so many Americans are poor."

    I understand your point, but even though I'm not positive, I remember reading something that it's not the low skilled jobs that are lacking ... it's the skilled labor and management positions. Bringing in folks for jobs that are lacking isn't a real good idea.

    "Good for them, especially if the family helped our national security. Many Muslims on the other hand are a serious threat to our national security unlike the Laotians. "

    Some laotians were as well D2. Also, some of the Somali's that are coming here are not Muslim or are converting to Christianity if you hadn't noticed. Additionally, many of them are providing much needed intel as well. Both for domestic purposes as-well-as international.

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  196. "How much do you think it cost for one terrorist attack?"

    That's exactly the point I'm trying to get across to you Greg. It only takes one Islamic terror attack to do lot's of damage like we saw during 9-11, and the more people we import to America who approve of Islamic terrorism to achieve their goals, the more danger we'll be in.

    Why on earth can't you comprehend that Greg?

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